![]() Quatloo ( talk) 09:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply Is that an official policy or guideline, or your own personal position? Can you point me to where it says, or at least implies, we shouldn't use IMDB as a reliable source? - JackofOz ( talk) 11:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply It is official policy. But IMDB can appear in the list of external links. ![]() No fact in Wikipedia should ever point to IMDB as a source. But since you keep on denying it, if IMDB doesn't qualify as a reliable source, why is it used as a source for virtually ALL the actors we have articles on, including Cornel Wilde? - JackofOz ( talk) 06:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply IMDB is generally listed as an external link, which is different from it being used as a source. I take no position on that issue I'm just interested in letting our readers know that there is a discrepancy in the public record about where he was born and what his birth name was. If a significant number of sources report him as having been born in Slovakia, including the German version of Wikipedia, I'm in no position to say they're wrong, or they're right. My sole interest is in ensuring we have a complete and accurate picture of this, or any other, subject of one of our articles. I have no interest in contradicting the NYT or any other source. I hold no brief for IMDB or any other source. ![]() Quatloo ( talk) 01:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply Once again, it is not I who am claiming anything. If you do not have a reliable source for your claim, you should not include it in the article, especially if your intent is to contradict the New York Times. JackofOz ( talk) 01:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply IMDB does not qualify as a WP:Reliable source. If it were the only source that said he was born outside the USA, I'd be a little sceptical, but it's far from the only source. It may not prove to be accurate, but it certainly isn't original research. I can't see why the IMDB note is not relevant. Quatloo ( talk) 01:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Reply I'm not claiming anything, simply reporting what other sources have said. IMDB's position is not relevant, it cannot be used as a source. JackofOz ( talk) 08:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Reply If your claim is that the New York Times is incorrect, surely a suitable citation can be found. This all needs to be looked at and included as appropriate. His mother's surname was Vojtech, a very common Czech or Slovak name. IMDB says he was born in Hungary, and that he was of Hungarian-Czech parentage. His father’s surname was Weisz, so it stands to reason that, no matter where he was born, he would have had the surname Weisz at birth, and "Cornelius Louis Wilde" came later, and "Cornel Wilde" later still. This seems to square with the US Census info, that also says he was born in Hungary. And it also says that his family did not move to the USA till 1920, when he was 4 or 5. German Wikipedia and various others sources say he was born "Kornel Weisz", in Prievidza, now in Slovakia, but at that time part of the Hungarian part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
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